VTU Carry over system | Year Loss System | Number of back logs to carry forward | Court orders on VTU
Bangalore, 25 July 2015: There were several question raised by students community on the VTU backlogs carry over system. The talks have been running around the bush since past 3 years. It is important to get glimpse of what has happened in the past before reading this article.
In the year 2012, a group of VTU students filed a petition against the VTU year back system. Due to this the Student were allowed to carry any number of backlogs to the next year. Later, The judgement of the High Court of Karnataka ruled out the petition. High court announced that “Students should know the rules before joining VTU or any of its affiliated colleges”. Thus all the rules of carry over system were reverted back within 2 years.
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If the VTU candidates fail to clear the below criterion, the students will have a year loss, and they can re-join back to the college after they satisfy the below conditions.
The current rules for year back system are as follows:
To advance to next year, the student should not have more than 4 backlogs in the current and previous years all together. i.e. Maximum number of backlogs that carried is: 4
First year Students (1st and 2nd semester):
If the student is in 1st year and he has 5 backlogs at the end of the 2nd semester, he won’t be permitted to study 2nd year.
Second Year Students (3rd and 4th semester):
There should not be any backlog in the previous year (1st year) and the total backlogs of 3rd and 4th semester must be 4 or less than 4. Only then you are eligible to be promoted to the next year(3rd year, i.e 5th semester).
Third Year Students (5th and 6th semester):
There should not be any backlog in the previous years (1st year, 2nd year) to be eligible to be promoted to the Final year(4th year) from the current year (3rd year).
Final Year Students (5th and 6th semester):
To get the B.E. certificate one must clear all the subjects for all the years including Constitution of India and professional Ethics, Environmental Science subjects. Even if 1 subject is pending, they will have to wait for another year and receive the certificate.
The same above rule is applicable for the students who came from Diploma with small addition:
For the students who joined VTU directly to the 2nd year, have 2 subjects of Diploma Mathematics. These subjects can be carried till the final semester of Engineering. The rule for Diploma Maths is that it must be cleared in the course due time.
Read the news on VTU Carry over system which is running since 2012:
Bangalore, October 3rd 2012: Final verdict on the plea made by 100 students delayed as others file similar petitions before the High Court With the High Court adjourning the hearing on a plea challenging the varsity’s carry-over system, the ongoing tussle between BE students and administration of the Visvesvaraya Technological University (VTU) is set to continue. High Court fiat on carry over temporary, await final order: VTU
After the case came up for hearing, lawyers of a few more students who filed similar petitions against the university approached the High Court, asking that all the pleas be clubbed and heard together. Hence the hundred-odd students, who were given an interim order by the High Court granting them admission to the next semesters of their courses, will now have to wait for the final verdict. VTU carry-over system: HC relief to pupils
VTU vice-chancellor Dr H Maheshappa, however, categorically stated that unless the High Court specified that the order would be applicable to all the 19,000 students who will be affected, it will not be made a general rule. “We are presenting our argument against this order. For students who are nor part of this petition, on which the interim order has been issued, there will be no admissions”, he added.
The university argues that the policy not to allow students with backlogs of more than four subjects to move to the next semester is to produce quality engineers. “The focus of the students should be on studying and excelling in exams. If they do, this rule will not seem insurmountable,” said Maheshappa.
But, with the courses already begun, students who have not been part of this petition are having a harrowing time. Most students claim that their only option is to approach the High Court with similar petitions.
However, caution is also in the air because of preceding cases. Recently, engineering diploma students also approached the High Court to be allowed to have a carry-over system for all eight subjects. There are at least 12 similar petitions against the VTU itself which is yet to be decided upon and the students are in the dark about the fate of this academic year.
Even those 100 students who have been given the interim order by the High Court are still waging their own battle as their colleges have said that the admissions cannot be done until the VTU gives them a direct order in this regard.
Bangalore, 26 August 2012: The Karnataka high court’s interim order came as a relief for the students of Visvesvaraya Technological University. The HC had allowed a group of engineering students to be promoted even if they had a carry over of more than four subjects. The varsity vice-chancellor, S Maheshwarappa, however, told Bangalore Mirror the order holds good only for the 100 students who had originally filed the petition.
When asked about the colleges’ stand, Maheshappa said, “The VTU has no problem if the colleges give admission to those hundred students who were part of the petition on which the interim order has been issued. However, the university is still presenting its side of the case and arguments against this order are still on. So the VTU will not issue an official order to the colleges till the final verdict is delivered.”
While the legal battles are being fought, students continue to be uncertain about their future.
Students on Rage:
“Don’t judge students by their marks. Many students have more technical knowledge than the bookworms. High Court, please give justice for all. If this interim order does not apply to all 19,000 students. I will surely commit suicide and VTU will be responsible for it. Let us fight for our future.” said Manjushree.
“The back-year concept does not exist in other universities in India or anywhere else in the worldl!!!! We request VTU to abolish this concept because it does not really serve the purpose of creating quality engineers. It only creates more and more stress and forces us to learn our modules just for the sake of passing an exam.”, said Reina
“We appreciate the Vice Chancellors’s point about producing quality engineers. In that case, why don’t they ensure that every college has well-qualified and quality lecturers and sufficient coaching is provided to produce quality students rather than having a system that penalises them.”, said Arun.
“VTU V-C Maheshappa told BM that the ruling will apply to only the 100 students who petitioned the court and not others. Is this democracy?”, said Aakash.
“Please do something fast. One of my friends attempted suicide because of this year-out system. I request you to cancel this system and save lives.”, pleaded Varun.
Varun: The back-year concept does not exist in other universities in India or anywhere else in the worldl!!!! We request VTU to abolish this concept because it does not really serve the purpose of creating quality engineers. It only creates more and more stress and forces us to learn our modules just for the sake of passing an exam. They only notice the student get backlog.why don’t they ensure that every college has well-qualified and quality lecturers and sufficient coaching is provided to produce quality students rather than having a system that penalises them.I request the high court to intervene,lot of student eye’s are on your judgement. I request you to cancel this system and save lives.
Yashpal: VTU’s detention policy for engineering students seems ridiculous. Quality production of engineers requires proper planning, quality teaching faculty, students friendly atmosphere of the college. This policy has brought down its dignity only. My son has been the victim of vtus policy. He is not allowed to stay in the hostel also. This harsh decision of vtu has compelled me to keep my son outside paying huge amount of money. The vtu has inflicted rigorous punishment on the parents through their wards. Is it fair for the vtu to send out the students from its colleges without informing/communicating their parents ? If any untoward incidence takes place, will the vtu held responsible ? The students of NE states have become the victims vtu as well as communal riots. Shameful. The Karnataka government also should not keep mum in this regard. Collective effort made by the victims(students)of vtu is appreciable. We are optimistic, hon’ble court will deliver fair judgement for the sake these students.
Sudeep: VTU is an educational institution and behaving like a political one. do they even know what students have to go through? in many colleges they are not given hostels because they have been detained,which forces them to stay outside without basic facilities.they’ve to struggle each and every day of their life. what about the mental frustration and torture they face. specially critical subject backs. in VTU even many toppers have faced backlogs. And if a student is trying hard to clear all subjects so VTU’s method of appreciation is YEAR BACK, 1 subject you can make an exception. everyone is not a born genius. there are people in administration and faculty of many colleges who cant even speak proper grammatically correct english. and wake up VTU! quality engineers does not mean they’ve to be nerds. I know a guy who is an ethical hacker and does’nt need a degree to get a job. and he is sitting with an year back. dont measure a student’s potential according to books. I know a guy who met with an accident and was unable to appear for his exam he also got detained.that student was a topper. and if you want to give good engineers to the country reduce the pressure on students which even forces many into drugs and other addictions. giving two exams back to back one is ELECTIVE other is CRITICAL the people who set the paper can they themselves face the situation? because the student has more subjects to attend to. VTU think!!!
Manjunath: Is this is you call it a law? How can one get a grant of admission when others are facing the same problem? Is it not shows that people who have money to purchase the law? Mr. Maheswarapa must have to be sacked from his roles because he failed in giving the justice for many of the students. First he should be proven he was not involved in any of duplication of thesis while he was doing his Doctorate. Such rogues should be kept out of VTU to get proper justice to common students. Do not play with the life of the students. It is an alarming sign for the impotent government.